thanx rocmoc and dan. I was talking about the actual t-belt behind the cover I know in the auto industry typically last 90,000-100,000. The noise I think is the brakes I will be pulling it apart this week to check. yes the tranny cruising down the road is when I hear it. The tranny like i said has always been loud just wanted to make sure it was normal cause I usually dont use 4th and 5th gears around home