What im thinking about doing is waiting until Lowe's gets some 10, footers back in stock (they told me they didn't know how long it would be) and get 4 of em, I can use the front end loader on the tractor to support a corner at a time, take the 8 footer out, dig down two more feet and get it the same height as the previous 4x4, just deeper in the ground= sturdier.