Greg Kilgore

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I know its an older post. But I agree that it seems like it is a ground issue. If the original poster would post his resolution that would help. But some info on relays and power. And if I wrong it won't be the first time. The relay should supply the positive 12V DC power. To whatever. The ground or negative side should go to a frame ground or back to the battery. Frame grounds are a lot of problems on many many electrical issues on a lot of vehicles. Whether it's a side by side or a 2001 GMC Sierra dash cluster (don't ask) or a 1997 Dodge Dakota dash cluster (ground point under the kick panel on driver and passenger side). Cleaning the ground points or running a ground wire back to the battery should resolve the issue. If the fuel pump and relay is good. But usually there are many circuits feeding off one ground point. So it would be best to follow the ground coming off the fuel pump to make sure the ground point is making good contact to frame. The ground wire can be tested with a multi-meter. 1. Set multi-meter to OHMS. 2. Hold one lead of multi-meter to the other lead of multi-meter. The reading should be 0.0 to maybe 0.2. That will be the reference of the meter and also tells you there is little to no resistance between the leads. 3. Now take the negative side of the fuel pump wire to one lead of the multi-meter. and touch the other lead to a UNPAINTED part of the frame. The reading should be the same or maybe 0.1 more than when you touch the leads of the meter together. If no reading or a very high reading that would indicate a bad connection to ground somewhere and the ground point would need to be cleaned. Hope this info helps you or someone. I'm not responsible if anything unwanted happens while you're testing.

From what I've seen from posts on this site about someone wanting to know what filter to use. When I did a search on this site. The hiflofiltor hf682 filter is concave further with the center hole you use to screw the oil filter on with is a further IN the filter than standard filters are. If this filter will work for his massimo I don't know. I know it works great for the axis 500. And since hisum makes I'm assuming it will. The gasket or o-ring is rounded. But I think the key is the concave. Maybe both concave and rounded gasket.

You can take out the one way bearing. Don't think it will have any ill effect. Other than not holding itself back. From what you stated about your one-way bearing install. Sounds like it was installed backwards. If you decide to reinstall a new one-way bearing. Put it in opposite of the way you did last time. Just a thought.

Since Massimo is made by Hisun, just like my Axis. I was able to use a hiflofiltro hf682 oil filter from Amazon. I bought a 4 pack for my cfmoto. Tried it on my 2022 Axis 500 and it worked perfectly. From my understanding all Hisun engines uses the same oil filter. OR if you have to have one ASAP. You could go to Lowes and pick up one for a Axis. At least my Lowes carries the oil filters for the Axis now since they started selling them.

Well haven't dug into the HISUN wet clutch. But replaced the wet clutch in my CFMOTO twice. Once it was needed and Once out of fear it was bad. Anyway the way bearing aka engine brake. This is the way it was explained to me. The engine has to be able to idle without the one-way bearing engaging. "One-Way- Think of it like this: with the unit not moving and in gear, the engine must be able to idle without engaging the one way and looking at the primary straight-on the engine would be rotating clockwise. That's the same as the shaft being able to rotate counter-clockwise when the engine isn't running. So, if looking straight-on at it and it rotates counter-clockwise freely.. and engages when you turn it clockwise, it's correct. ........" NMKawierider Now that again is on the CFMOTO. The CVT belt on my UFORCE 600 the belt is on the passenger side. On my Axis 500 the CVT belt is on the driver side. But looking at driver side or passenger side. When looking straight-on clock-wise is clock-wise. I followed the above advise and was up and going without any issues. I soaked my new wet clutch overnight in the same ATV wet clutch oil I fill the crank case with. Matter of fact I poured the oil from the bowl I soaked wet clutch in. The oneway bearing get lubed from the engine oil. So NO grease. Be sure to use a good ATV/motorcycle oil formulated for a wet clutch. My Axis manual says to unscrew oil dip stick, wipe off, then reinsert WITHOUT screwing in, pull back out. Read oil level. A little over full doesn't hurt. But not way over.

That is how I look at a lot of THINGS I could make. Figure in material, and my time building it vs. just buying and installing or having it installed. Now if I'm doing it for enjoyment/relaxation/satisfaction of working on stuff that is different. But I usually only have the weekends to piddle on stuff. No evenings.

Take pic of receipt. Go to https://www.axis-offroad.com/warranty-information

Any update? New wet clutch fix the issue?

One way bearing will slow down the machine when letting off the gas. To help hold back the machine when going down hills and such. I don't know if itbis supposed to have the one way bearing or not. It can help save brake pads. Kinda of a personal preference. You could go to alpha-sports or another site to see if their parts list shows a one-way bearing. Or in a repair manual to see what it says. When the engine turns. The clutch grips the clutch drum and the bearing free spins basically. When you let off gas. The one way bearing kinda grabs and doesn't let the clutch drum spin freely. Causing it to grab forcing the engine to spin. The compression of the engine causes the machine to slow down. Not technical but this is how the bearing works. Sort of. The only way I know to explain it. Again a personal preference. If you don't want the machine to hold itself back when letting off gas. Don't put it in. If you want the machine to hold back a little, install. Either way, will not hurt top speed. Unless you install backwards.

Not yet. There is some after market adjusters out there for sale. Saw a set on ebay for 5 bucks. One side adjusts, the other just glides. They make pedal extenders. Kinda high for what you get. So I'm going the diy route. Going to take a 4x4 block of wood. Some long bolts and a wingnut for easy removal. Going to give that a try and see what happens.

As TapBoss said, most likely the shift cable needs adjusting. If new it was not adjusted right from the getgo. If older the linkage is warn or cable is stretched. Either way the manual should give directions on how to adjust the cable. If nothing search YouTube for a couple video. If you can't find one for your model look for a setup that is close.

You said you bought it used. Maybe the previous owner did some kinda bypass on the seat belt safety wire. Check to see if there is any kind of wires going to the drivers side seat belt clip that tell the machine if you have uour seat belt on or not. Possible if the previous owner did rig something, it might have came loose on one of your rides. Just grasping at straws.

Maybe take the door off and side skirt off that side to make things a little easier to get to. Maybe a magnetic hex bit. Use extensions. I had to use about 3 ft of extensions to get the case off my cfmoto. The cvt case was being the gas tank. Had to take off wheel to get the tank out of the way. Just take your time. You'll get it. I have faith in your abilities.

Put a forked prybar or flat screw driver behind the bolt. Apply a little outward pressure as you loosen the bolt. Hopefully it's just the bolt and not the case. After bolts are out. Maybe a thread chaser or maybe have to tap new threads a size bigger.

You could try a fuel pump as long as it would pump enough volume for what you need. And remember most electric fuel pumps like to push not pull. So the pump would need to be close to the tank. I replaced a fuel pump on a Kohler 18hp lawn mower with a cheap electric one and it has worked fine. But that was 1994 lawn mower not a side by side. Also if the pump supplys more gas than the machine uses there needs some place for extra gas to go so it doesn't flood the engine. Look up the specs on what the max speed SHOULD be in LOW and HIGH vs what you actually get in LOW and HIGH. A sensor could think the machine is in low when actually in high and not letting it go any faster. Is it the same speed on level ground vs an incline? Really acts and sounds like a sensor or something limiting the speed. But I have been wrong before. Someone more knowledgeable on the engines may be able to help. Hope you get it fixed and post your fix

Great info ordering cables NOW. And printing out the posts. Made an adapter to read data from my OBD1 computer on my old S10 so this should be doable. THANKS.

Kinda acts like a Rev limiter or speed limiter. Mine will not go above 10mph without the seat belt fastened. Check that or something along that line. What is that red light in the gauge cluster?

Sounds like the wet clutch is shot and will need to be replaced. Jack up the machine. Remove CVT cover. Start machine, place in gear, give some gas,, and see if the primary and secondary spin. Then lower back to ground with CVT cover off. Start machine, Place in gear, give some gas, and see if primary and secondary. If primary spins in air and not on ground. The. The wet clutch is shot. If primary spins on ground but not the secondary. Then the belt need replaced again or primary and secondary needs cleaned or more attention. Maybe a low oil situation but I'm sure you have already checked that. Had the same thing happen on my moto. Replaced belt and then had to replace the wet clutch. If wet clutch is shot. Recommend replacing wet clutch, clutch drum/spindle the primary attaches to, one-way/engine brake bearing. Might as well get oil filter and oil cause the clutch material had to go somewhere. I would actually get 2 oil change kits. After the repair and machine is now mobile. After riding a week or so and oil has had a chance to move around engine and wash stuff to pan. Change oil and filter again to keep stuff off your new clutch. And makes sure stuff from old clutch doesn't clog up filter and messes up your new clutch. Best of luck.

Welcome to forum.

Plan on doing something like that to my axis. Something else I plan on doing is a pair of 12 volt radiator fans way up high tied to the ROPS (roll over protection system). Then have passenger and driver rocker switches. Should provide plenty of air. Plenty of air comes in at the top of windshield. And help keep dust out of cab. I have a rear windshield. That helps a LOT but still gets a little in.

Causes Low oil. Wrong oil. Using the throttle to hold you on an incline. Instead of using the break. Hauling/towing heavy load in high gear. These are a few I can think of. Best way to test a wet clutch or a CVT belt or something else. Raise the rear of the machine. Remove the cover on CVT housing. Start machine and put in gear. See if the CVT belt is spinning the primary and secondary. Turn off machine. Leave CVT cover OFF and lower the machine. Now start and put in gear and give a little gas. Does the primary sheave turn but the CVT belt slip? Does the CVT belt slip on the secondary sheave? Does nothing turn? If nothing turns. Then probably a wet clutch issue. If CVT belt slips. Then either a belt or junk built up on sheaves. Needed either belt replaced or sheaves cleaned or both, Hopes this helps and anybody correct me if I'm wrong.

Make one for a 2013 CFMOTO UForce 600. Send to me. I'll test it for you.

A relay has one wire going to a battery that can pull large amps. Then it has a smaller wire that goes to usually a key switch or some other type of switch that pulls small amps positive wire. And a wire to a ground negative wire. In the relay, when the small positive wire gets power. It complete the circuit along with the negative wire and forms a electrical magnet that pulls a bar. One side of the bar is connected to the big amp wire. The other side of the bar is going to a fuel pump or 4x4 acturactor or lights or.......whatever. That would be the positive side of whatever device is being powered or activated. The other side of the device would still need a negative wire going to it. Either from the battery ground or frame ground. There should be a ground point or ring somewhere that has a lot of wires coming out. If the switch that turns on say the lights or 4x4 acturactor supplied all the power needed by the device. It would be very big in order to handle the amps needed by the device. With a relay. A switch can be small. And use small amperage to activate the magnet in the relay. The relay handles the big amperage. Hope this helps explain a little about the relay. Hope I didn't confuse you further.

Got a good deal from Lowe's on an Axis 500. Same as the Hisun HS500. So I've been told. Anyway the wife is 5ft nothing and has trouble reaching the break and gas pedals. I'm needing a solution for making an adjustable seat for her when she drives. But has to go all the way back for me. Or my knees will be in the steering wheel. Anybody got a solution. Also don't like the fact that the seats are held in by the plastic.