I'm really new to utv's. But, I bought my 2008 trooper 2 in july 2010, had 550 miles on it. paid less than 1/2 of what the new rzr cost. I have back problems so couldn't do 4 wheeler. Decided to try joyner, at that price. I have had 2 problems that slowed me down in the mts. blown fan fuse, had 1 with me, & brake caliper bolt broke,jamming inside wheel. Was able to get it loose,wired up, rode home. I have put close to 2000 miles on it. And yes I have done some upgrades, "because I wanted to". & I like doing things to it. I feel like I can do things to it, make it my own.. If money no object, would probably go with can-am, or new joyner, if available. So far I really love my trooper, but never had others to compare.. Good luck, & Merry Christmas,,,, Quig