Jeff Craig

Mike: First of all thank you for your fair and constructive dialogue. I appreciate it. I don't know how anyone can trust the cowards who come on here and make silly statements hiding behind screen names, never willing to identify themselves. First, I wanted to let all of you know that Casey is still and will remain with us. We have spent the last month going to the individual suppliers of Joyner parts. We are rebuilding our inventory of Joyner parts and will continue to offer them. We have a container or parts that will arrive the first part of December. I will be more specific as to the date when we get closer. As far as we know the Joyner factory is closed. We have been told that by our Chinese representative that actually went to the factory and saw the gates chained. The phones are disconnected. Emails are never answered. The Joyner factory may yet come back to life. We hope they do. All I know at this point in time is that we have heard nothing from them. Here is the history for those of you that are interested in the truth. After Team Joyner went bankrupt we came in and hired the former employees and signed a new distribution agreement with Changzhou Joyner Recreational Vehicles, the manufacturer. By the way, we have NO association with the old Team Joyner. We complied with every provision of the agreement. CJR could not live up to its financial obligations under the agreement. The first new (supposedly improved) 2010 Trooper we purchased from them was completely unacceptable from a quality stand point. As I mentioned in a prior post, they installed a used engine in what was sold as new vehicle. While CJR assured us of their financial health, we later learned they were in serious trouble. It was not all their fault. Last January Team Joyner took delivery of about $650,000 of vehicles they never paid for. They never recovered from that. We hear they are trying to make a comeback and we wish them luck. While we lost a lot of money trying to bring the Joyner vehicles back, we have moved on. We will still offer the Joyner parts we can source and sell the HSUN and other vehicles. Anyone one who wishes to can contact me at 480.253.1419 Jeff Craig JMC

Mike: Changzhou Joyner, the manufacturer of the Joyner vehicles is out of business. They no longer exist. They took a hell of a lot of JMC's money with them when they went down. That is a fact. If you doubt that try reaching someone there. If you are successful, let me know. A point of clarification. We never once ask a dealer to make a large (or any) deposit to stock and sell parts. That is absolutely untrue. I would challenge you to produce one dealer that can make that claim. We did ask for deposits for vehicles. As to the reason why you don't see 2010's. The first is there is no manufacturer in existence to make them. We bought one 2010 Trooper which the manufacturer promised us was the new and improved 2010. It was a joke. They actually put a used engine in it. I have the pictures to prove it. The factory could not produce a minimally acceptable vehicle. We canceled our order for the Troopers and Renegades because it was clear the factory was making inferior products. We have spent the last two months establishing a new parts supply chain for Joyners. We hope to have the parts in inventory within 60 days. If you have any issues with what I am saying, please write back or call me at 480.253.1419. All I would ask is that you identify yourself and discuss things in a civil manner. I will answer any question you have.

Want to clear up a lot of B.S. from people. JMC is still in business. We are not going away. We survived the collapse of the Joyner factory in China. They took us for thousands of dollars in parts and vehicles that were never shipped. Someone just called (but was too big of a coward to identify himself) to tell me how much we suck. Well guess what. I am not going to disagree. Up to now we have sucked in servicing our customers. We are a distributor. We can only sell what we can buy. We don't make anything here. The factory took our money and never delivered promised parts or vehicles. The guy who called claimed the factory was still in business and that we were the problem. Not so. Try to call or send an email to Changzhou Joyner and see what happens. If you do get someone to respond, let me know. Over the next few months we will be re-stocking the Joyner parts inventory. We don't know if any Joyner vehicles will ever be built again. We are looking for a new manufacturer. We know there are a lot of upset people. Well you can count me as one.