LongSun

It was you that was talking to yourself last Sunday. Already forgotten? Talking to yourself, short memory. writing strange lines. I don't expect I ever get a translation in regular English of this line 'hes euro pean'

I need a refresh of my English, because I don't understand "hes euro pean " But I do have an opinion about people who talk to themselves.

That's the same experience I have with BRP. A BRP product is 2,5-3 times more expensive to buy than a Chinese equivalent, but they last not 2,5-3 times longer.

Aha.....now I know who you are

I did not ask anything in this thread. You need a refresher in reading

Another 3 clicks in duckduckgo or google or whatever: long version shorter version of the consumer protection organisation Another short version form a lawyer.

The worse of those three TS had on the list yes, compare [ kuhm-pair ] Phonetic (Standard)IPA verb (used with object) , com·pared, com·par·ing. to examine (two or more objects, ideas, people, etc.) in order to note similarities and differences: If you compare these three pieces of cloth, you'll see they're all similar in weight. There is nothing in the definition that you should compare 3 brands/types and have to bash brands (or a whole nation) that are not asked to compare. @TS: Good to hear you could make a choice. Good luck with it and drive save!

I don't expect you can read Norwegian, so it is waste of time to find this law. But it is a common rule in the EU. And Norway (which is not in the EU) has some even better protection for customers. If the dealer close, the distributor (Is that the right word? It's the one that import things) is the one I have to deal with. And here is a big point for me: The distributor of the Hisun is the one that also import Peugeot, cycles and motorcycles, Suzuki outboard engines and motorcycles, and a lot more. I guess about 15+ brands. Linhai is imported at a lot smaller dealer. Here is distribution not core-business. So if this company stops there is much more of a problem because the dealer and the distributor is the same.

I don't understand this tread. Topic starter has three options. 8 days later, there is only a discussion about Chinese 'junk'. There is no Chinese 'junk' on TS's list. OK, there is Chinese junk on the marked, but not everything they make is junk. My house (and your house too!) is full of Chinese 'junk'. Look at your A-branded stuff where it's made. Has anybody experience with Canadese junk? I do. a Can-AM ATV, a Skidoo Snowmobile, a Bercomac Snowblower, and some Canadese bearings in Volkswagen. All very bad experiences. But TS likes to have advice when he want to choose between, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Can Am. My vote: not a Can Am. The B.U.D.S is your enemy if you have problems. Only a BRP dealer can help you. If there is a sensor failure, you can't find which or what sensor. And if your (expensive) Can Am is 10 years old, they don't make parts anymore. Maybe you can find some old stock at a dealer. Than you are lucky. Otherwise you have a machine in the garage that don't run but looks as new because you took care of it 10 years. So my vote is Yamaha or Kawasaki. Where I should prefer the Yamaha. Decent stuff at motorcycles, they know what they do. I have no experience with Kawasaki. Good luck with you choice!

Sorry to hear your experience. I will search for the stories. I have not read that but still I have some points. You say Massimo does not use Hisun engines anymore but engines from Linhai. Correct me if I'm wrong: I understood that the whole Massimo was a rebranded Hisun, and now a rebranded Linhai. That said: You have a Massimo. In my opnion YOU have nothing to do with Hisun. Massimo has to solve your problems. Massimo has sold the product, and they have to repair the product. At least that is the rule (law) here. If I buy a Hisun, I only have to deal with the dealer that sold it to me. Here they give 3 years warranty on the Hisun, But I don't care about the warranty because the law says that such a product has to last minimum 5 years. (for example a bread toaster has to last 2 years) So if the Hisun should have a problem I just bring it back to the dealer and it is his problem. Of course this is only about fabrication problems. Not normal wear. Even undo the transaction is an option here if the product is not repairable or it takes to long etc. BUT! It is not a situation I should prefer. I rather have a product that last some time without (many) problems. On the other hand, the Hisun dealer is about 50km's from my house. Linhai 750km's or something. The ship the Linhai if I buy that one. If there is something wrong with it, I have no idea how they will solve it. ( I really like the open diff in the rear axle at Linhai!) So it's a difficult situation. Same for the other brands like CFmoto. Only Can Am is really close by. But as I wrote: to expensive, and I have bad experiences with 2 BRP products.

What is your 'normal' driving? On paved roads or sandroads or? You are the first that say they are not reliable. In all the reviews I read on internet and the reviews on youtube everybody is satisfied. What should be an alternative? Linhai? I have not much choices in brands. It's Linhai or Hisun. CFmoto, Segway etc are at least 60% more expensive. So called A-brands are even more expensive, and I'm not satisfied with my A-brand Can-Am . and Skidoo Chinese can't be worse.

Yes, it good be that it will cost me to much. At this point, we don't have experience with an UTV, we just like them when we see one. We just have an ATV. Which is broke and nobody seems to have an idea what's wrong. But we still miss it so it is also an option we buy another ATV. They are cheaper. And if I buy an ATV it will be a Chinese made, (Hisun?) because this expensive Canadian made is not worth it. As soon as we have some time we will visit a Hisun dealer and try one. We will see. Maybe I start with a full tank than and drive until it is almost empty and fill it up. Than I can at least tell dealer and importer the MPG For now I still will reading to know more ins and outs so I can make a wise decision. (maybe the first in my life)

That is for sure an advantage that Honda has a normal transmission instead for the garter-transmission. Honda don't sell UTV's here in Norway. I can check other brands if they have something with conventional trans, but I don't think there are any. And as you say, they will be way more expensive. Gas is expensive here, so yes mpg is important for me. I don't need a UTV, but it is more for fun ride. And all the places where it is allowed to drive with an UTV, are the same roads a car can do. But if you drive roads in national parks than you experience it more in an UTV, or ATV or Motorcycle. But if a trip costs me 3 times what it should cost by car, than the choice to take the car is quickly made. Hobby (or fun) costs money, but ........

I do all my own services end repairs. But the B.U.D.S system from BRP is a crime. Have an can-am ATV and a skidoo snowmobile, both standing still because I can't read the ECU. Had a lot of silly troubles with the ATV from new. Not nice to standing in the middle of nowhere and the thing will not start. And suddenly after a few minutes is starts like there was nothing happened. Never a BRP product for me again. edit: I wrote DESS intead of B.U.D.S.

@aefron88 Thanks now I understand what you meant. @chase ledbetter. For me the same, here in Norway they are street legal too. It will be tractor registered with max speed 60km/u. Not much off road allowed, but we have a lot of roads where it should be more fun to drive in a utv than a car. You can smell the trees etc. That's a big difference between the tracker and the talon.