Joyner's New Owners

[Guest Lenny]

Joyner has been bought by a new company. This happened some months ago. Talked to a dealer in Northern Idaho (Pinehurst Preformance), He said that the company is Iplex ( don't know about spelling). They supposedly hired 3 engineers from Chrysler and plan on cleaning up all the stupid little problem areas. They have a new differential they are sending Pinehurst and told him to try and brake it. This is good news. Lets all give it 3 cheers and hope this is actually finally going to happen.

Lenny

[Gumball]

Lenny is right about the change in Joyner ownership.

Joyner was acquired by the new company in April. The new parent owner of Team Joyner USA is IPLEX, a company out of Atlanta. They are large global sourcing company with offices worldwide and their management team comes with much experience.

The new company is committed to making Joyner cars the best on the market. They are in the process of building a new plant in China to accomplish this goal

Gumball

[Anylizer]

to add to this story a little.... Chrysler, before the bankrupcy[sp] was going to release an elecrtic car called a "P-POD". Iplex retained all the rights and is going to use this factory to build Joyners. They will also now offer a 6mo. parts and labor warranty. As was mentioned above, Iplex is committed to making Joyner a #1 product, and a major force in the UTV market. A.

[mouser58]

The idea that this company is wanting to upgrade the Joyners is GREAT, but the company sending jobs to China (since they are based in Atlanta) downright SUCKS.

[Anylizer]

The idea that this company is wanting to upgrade the Joyners is GREAT, but the company sending jobs to China (since they are based in Atlanta) downright SUCKS.

I agree whole heartedly, but..... nobody here will work for the wages that are paid over there. Thats why every other country is moving production to China. I was told once that the average assembly line worker gets $1.50/hr in the plants over there. Not sure if it's true or not but if it is you can certainly see why they would move there. We are required to pay a minimum of about $8/hr. whether they are skilled or not. thats huge by the time the owner pays the rest of the taxes etc. for employment here. A.

[Guest Lenny]

If CEOs and a lot of others were not taking rediculious amounts as compensation like 100 or 200 million a year out of our companies, things could be a lot cheaper here. Especially when their workers in many cases have to work two jobs and have the wife work just to make ends meet. I'm just not willing to accept outragious pay to anyone rather a sports star, surgen or CEO. If this is ok, why don't we just give them, say 2 billion a year. Whats the problem. they have to have a life too. They are the ones making it happen, the workers don't do much. Ya, sure.

Lenny

[rocmoc]

I agree whole heartedly, but..... nobody here will work for the wages that are paid over there. Thats why every other country is moving production to China. I was told once that the average assembly line worker gets $1.50/hr in the plants over there. Not sure if it's true or not but if it is you can certainly see why they would move there. We are required to pay a minimum of about $8/hr. whether they are skilled or not. thats huge by the time the owner pays the rest of the taxes etc. for employment here. A.

It is actually closer to $.45/hr in China. Mexico gets $1.50/hr and that is why a lot of the jobs were moved from Mexico to China after they were sent to Mexico with the signing of NAFTA. This has & is causing a lot of problems, one being the increase in illegal crossings into USA, for Mexico as well as USA in the job market.

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

[rocmoc]

Is or will the new owners going to do anything for the First Owners of Joyners? Is the repair & assembly location staying in Phoenix? Maybe I should hold off on the trans repair or start planning the replacement with another brand! Too early to know if this is good or bad.

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

[flatbed]

Its not the wages that kill us in the US. Its all the crap the goverment imposses on you to do buisness here. Just listen to Nancy Polosi and Barny Frank, that says it all.

[rocmoc]

Don't forget to add that idiot Waxman from LA with his Cap & Trade.

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

[Anylizer]

Is or will the new owners going to do anything for the First Owners of Joyners? Is the repair & assembly location staying in Phoenix? Maybe I should hold off on the trans repair or start planning the replacement with another brand! Too early to know if this is good or bad.

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

I'm not sure how the current owners will be delt with. Based on 20yrs of Powersports experience, my "GUESS" would be when the warranty is up..... it's up. But that will be up to Iplex/Joyner. I'm sure there will be a case by case assesment. Personaly I think it would be in their best interest to take care of as much as they can.

As a dealer I have been very nervous about this buy out. But I have been re-assured in the last couple of months that Iplex intends to be a top competitor in this market. Only time will tell....... not months...... but probably a couple of years for them to establish themselves. I an only hope for the best. A.

[rocmoc]

Anylizer,

Any word about the facility in Phoenix?

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

[Anylizer]

It is my "feeling" that the Pheonix operation will stay intact. It seems to be businees as usual from there. There have been no indications that things will change. A.

[rocmoc]

It is my "feeling" that the Pheonix operation will stay intact. It seems to be businees as usual from there. There have been no indications that things will change. A.

Thank you for the quick response.

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

[brostar]

Tim, in the latest Joyner 2009 catalogue http://www.thunderinc.com/2009_Joyner_Catalog.pdf the UTV and Buggy models have been reduced to just a few models. Is this what they are going to concentrate on or are they retaining the whole range & just promoting the more popular models because more of these are available to sell.

Any other info on the new owners from anybody would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers Mike.

[rocmoc]

I am still concerned if this is good!

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

[rocmoc]

This is the press release!

http://www.iplex.com/media/content/iplexprteamjoyner.pdf

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

[Anylizer]

The latest info is they are creating 2 brochures. 1 for UTV the other for sand buggies. I'm sure Iplex will be looking into the productivity of each machine to determine which are the most profitable. I'll pass alng more info as I receive it. A.

[brostar]

Thanks A. Iplex deserves a bit of time to prove it's self. We can only speculate with how Joyner is going to move forward from here & in my view, we should get behind Iplex & they should also support you, Joyner owners. No company wants to read or here about their product failing or being talked about in a negative manner even if it was a past management issue. It would be good advertising if Iplex would come to the party & fix all known faults but that is up to them and in no way are they obligated to do so as new owners. If it cost 50k that would be a sound investment if it generated 250k plus in sales. Iplex, I wish you all the best & if you are looking for 1 or 2 consultants who know what they are talking about, you will find 4 or 5 right here on UTV Boards.

Cheers Mike.

[Anylizer]

quote:Iplex, I wish you all the best & if you are looking for 1 or 2 consultants who know what they are talking about, you will find 4 or 5 right here on UTV Boards.

It's kinda funny that you bring this up Brostar..... I offered this "consultation" to Joyner when I first signed with them, and at no charge, just improved product and better dealer support. Instead what I got was... " Oh yeah"... that would be great..... and....... really, never heard of that happening, or, No we've never seen that happen before yours is the first.

I look for better things from Iplex. Sounds like they have already implimented alot of C.A.D. to the upcoming machines.

A.

[brostar]

Anylizer, I did have you in mind when I said 4 or 5 right here. He's a thought though, why don't we start a thread for improvements Trooper owners would like to add on future models and the Commando/Renegade owners can add to it too. In fact I'll just do it.

Cheer Mike.