New AMP Pro Owner

[Xov]

Just received delivery of a 2024 AMP Pro.  Thought I'd start a thread with my impressions as I use it and learn more.  There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of real-world usage information out there on this model.  Hope this will help others as they research.

Intended Use Cases

• Fire mitigation / slash removal from a 5 acre forested and well-gamble-oaked property.  The previous owners thought as much about fire mitigation as I do about fashion: not much.
• Snow removal
• Stump pulling
• General hauling (rock, lumber, etc.)
• Weimaraner energy depletion.  Wasn't an original use case, but a nice added bonus. 

Experiences So Far

Wasn't impressed that two of the bumpers on the underside of the bed where it sits upon the frame were missing.  The metal on metal contact has damaged the powder coating and the frame.  I expect a little better QC.

I've only put a few hours on it, so not a ton to report on usage.  It isn't quiet; it's silent.  I can't even detect an electric note from the motor. I removed (and subsequently replaced) the motor cover noticed that the motor is German and made by Schambuller.  The motor controller is Italian and made by Dana TM4.  Given the operating specs of both I found on the web, I suspect both are higher quality than the previous Navitas (which is supposed to be decent).  The motor is rated at 25 hp and 71.5 lb-ft of torque.  It feels very powerful.  All the torque is delivered instantly, if desired.

The bed is huge and has an electric dump as standard.  Great feature but would like it to go up a bit more.  Probably not feasible from an engineering perspective, but I want and I need ;).

Power steering is nice, but vague.  Probably common to many UTVs, but I am accustomed to more direct results from input.  Plan early and plan often.

In our first full day of usage, we hauled about 1/2 as much slash as the entire rest of the year when I was doing it by hand cart.  I may get fatter, but I'll also get more done.  After a few days of usage, the battery meter has gone down by 1/10th. 

Until next time...

[Xov]

After about 9 hours of use, happy to report that things are going well.  The huge (for a UTV) bed is a serious productivity enhancer.  I can cut and haul soooo much more slash than I used to.  The electric dumping feature is pretty great, too.

I was wrong about the motor.  It’s rated at 24hp, not 25 as I mentioned above.  The power is plenty for my needs.  The torque is noticeable.  The on-demand 4x4 is pretty useful as I experienced when stuck on a steep and loamy incline.  Switched it on and immediately achieved traction.

The front and rear hitches, along with the winch, make this a very handy extraction vehicle.  Tree saver and snatch block setup is a breeze.  I use it to pull gamble oak after thinning an area.  Anything I can’t pull by hand with an extractigator I am able to pull with the winch.  The included winch hook is pretty poor.  I’ll be replacing it.

Overall, I’m very pleased and slightly relieved… while American Landmaster has an A+ BBB rating, those ratings aren’t a good indicator of overall quality.  

I’ll report back after the first experiences with plowing.  The performance in cold conditions remains to be seen.  Hoping the hydraulic plow I purchased is worth the dough.

Until then…

 

[Xov]

First snow of the season came Saturday and it snowed through the night into Sunday.  We only accumulated about 10 inches on the deck and 6 on the driveway.  The temp was 8F when I turned the machine on and started plowing.

This was my first time plowing ever. 

Observations

• No problem with the battery in that temp.
• Plenty of power.
• Great traction on my asphalt millings driveway.  Doubt I'll need chains.  
• The controls for plowing are decent, but not conducive to multi-tasking the operations of plow up, plow down, switch from FWD to RVS, and steering input. 
• Working the pedals with insulated boots on is a poor experience. 
• The hydraulic plow from Landmaster is beefy and laying a long stripe is very effective. 
• It's much warmer sitting in the cab, even without a heater or doors, than walking behind a blower.

If I had to choose between plowing and snow blowing 6 inches, I would choose the blower.  When I get over 12 inches, I will turn to the plow. 

Cheers.

p.s.  If you look closely, you can see I replaced the winch hook.

[jwtbama]

How are your brakes performing?  I just got my Amp Untamed crew last night and there is almost zero brake pedal travel.  They work but you really have to stand on them.  Wondering about how easy that is going to be in big winter boots.

[Xov]

In racing terms, I would describe them as soft and vague.  Nobody is going to be doing threshold braking effectively with these, but obviously not the intended use.  It seems like my experience is on the other end of the spectrum from yours.  That is interesting, perhaps I will bleed them to see if they perform better.

From a slightly different perspective: on a steep incline, the e-brake only works to keep the vehicle stationary if pulled 100% (all the way to the plastic molding).

[Mitt]

I’m seriously considering this same American Landmaster AMP with the long bed.  Would really appreciate any updates you might have, both good and bad experiences.  I have lots of forrest undergrowth to clear and trails to make, plus daily trips up and down 1/4 mile driveway between mailbox, barns and house.  Thanks. 

[Xov]

Nothing new to report.  I still think it's excellent and capable.  Now it will be the test of time and how reliable it remains.

I may update the winch with Warn's top UTV / ATV winch to get ~ 2,000 lbs more pulling power. 

[Mitt]

Roger that, thanks.  Hope to see updates from you in the future!

[MikeM]

On 11/10/2023 at 11:51 AM, Xov said:

In racing terms, I would describe them as soft and vague.  Nobody is going to be doing threshold braking effectively with these, but obviously not the intended use.  It seems like my experience is on the other end of the spectrum from yours.  That is interesting, perhaps I will bleed them to see if they perform better.

From a slightly different perspective: on a steep incline, the e-brake only works to keep the vehicle stationary if pulled 100% (all the way to the plastic molding).

Any updates would be appreciated 

 

[Xov]

Thanks for the reminder.

So after a winter I’m still very bully on the rig…

There is one issue with the plow accessory that is disappointing: it comes with two holes drilled for the hitch pin and cannot be fully inserted because it hits the front differential.  Pretty dumb design as it also stresses the wires that control the plow functionality when you can’t insert it all the way.  Nothing a hacksaw can’t solve, but it’s a very odd miss.  Perhaps due to supporting multiple models.

On the upside, I left it out all winter uncovered and we received various amounts of weather, including 32 inches of snow.  The thing was covered inside and outside with snow.  It started right up.  It’s also kept a good charge over the winter.  Landmaster told me I could leave it uncovered without issue and they were right.

We are very pleased with the purchase and love the lack of exhaust sound and smell in our quiet area.  Our neighbors saw me running it and told us later they were confused by why they didn’t hear sound out of it.  It’s pretty great, if I have any issues, I’ll report here.

[xuv224]

I have a 4x4 AMP with Untamed Edition. The manual mentions a Navitas app for troubleshooting purposes. But I found out that this was discontinued and the new motor and controller to not have an app that people can use, only dealers have access to it. I'm wondering if anyone had to work on their UTV's and wasn't able to do so due to lack of ability to diagnose the trouble codes and was forced to take it to the dealer?

[jwtbama]

So this is the second winter in a row that my AMP untamed shuts down on me while climbing our mountain.  It only does it on cold days (below 25) in Alabama. I've had issues with power since day one climbing hills, an occasional problem between reverse/forward where the gears seem not to fully transition and of course the dealer can't replicate any of these on flat ground.  The unit shuts down immediately, will turn back on in a few seconds but you still have to turn the selector knob back to neutral and then forward for it to go.  After it does that a few times, it shuts down completely - i have to turn everthing off then back on.  I might travel 10-20 yards between shut downs.

Is anyone experiencing this?  Seems like I might have a lemon

[Xov]

1 hour ago, jwtbama said:

So this is the second winter in a row that my AMP untamed shuts down on me while climbing our mountain.  It only does it on cold days (below 25) in Alabama. I've had issues with power since day one climbing hills, an occasional problem between reverse/forward where the gears seem not to fully transition and of course the dealer can't replicate any of these on flat ground.  The unit shuts down immediately, will turn back on in a few seconds but you still have to turn the selector knob back to neutral and then forward for it to go.  After it does that a few times, it shuts down completely - i have to turn everthing off then back on.  I might travel 10-20 yards between shut downs.

Is anyone experiencing this?  Seems like I might have a lemon

That is a bummer.

Nothing like that for me.  It gets cold here at 6900 ft, and I've never had an instance of the issues like you mention.  My driveway has a significant hill (50 ft rise over 300 ft) and we power up it no problem with a full load of slash (on the big bed, piled high) and two people.

I'd reach out to Landmaster directly to see if they have ideas.

[klm]

I am seriously considering an AMP  also, for general use on a 400 acre farm, so keep the update coming please.