Southern Utah Jamboree - The next Get Together

[Guest Lenny]

I prefer to camp in a more private camping site so Jeanne and I will be camping at the original camping site location. This is located aprox. 20 miles south of Hanksville on the east side of Hwy 95. The site can be seen right next to the road and is between mile marker 20 and 21. The site is very large and extends back away from the main road a good bit. We have our dogs and by tucking way back in at this location, we can provide them with more free running space without bothering others. Also this site is 1-1/2 miles closer to the trails and there are play trails right there next to the camping area. This site is dry camping without bathrooms etc. This should be a good jamboree, the best yet. We're looking forward to it.

Lenny

[Kinarfi]

Changed the drawing a little, it now shows the present camp site location choice and where Lenny & parked the first day, prior to finding the present camp site choice has be X'ed out, it wasn't very friendly to big rigs anyway. Every thing in this area is dry camping with no toilets or services.

Kinarfi

[Mopartist]

If we make it; I think the original camp spot south of Hanksville will be easiest to find places to camp. I'd hate to show up after 900 miles of driving and find it completely packed and nowhere to set up. I saw on one of the write ups that Temple Mountain and Goblin Valley is REALLY popular! Close to the road is good. Wife and I put a down payment on a good used motorhome yesterday; but that means i'll have to wait awile before putting new shocks on the Trooper. (A really good salesman got me to put down more than I wanted to) Ha ha! Oh well; it's all good! South Hanksville looks really interesting and following the Google Earth map of the trail looks like it gets REALLY nice when you get down by the river.

[rocmoc]

If we make it; I think the original camp spot south of Hanksville will be easiest to find places to camp. I'd hate to show up after 900 miles of driving and find it completely packed and nowhere to set up. I saw on one of the write ups that Temple Mountain and Goblin Valley is REALLY popular! Close to the road is good. Wife and I put a down payment on a good used motorhome yesterday; but that means i'll have to wait awile before putting new shocks on the Trooper. (A really good salesman got me to put down more than I wanted to) Ha ha! Oh well; it's all good! South Hanksville looks really interesting and following the Google Earth map of the trail looks like it gets REALLY nice when you get down by the river.

What did you get? he said excitedly!

rocmoc n AZ

[ricksrb]

just a couple questions.Campsite is 20 miles south of Hanksville,is that the last (or nearest) place for gas and food? Its said that the trails are about 1 1/2 miles from campsite,do we have to trailer to the trails from there or can we drive the troopers to the trails?

[Kinarfi]

just a couple questions.Campsite is 20 miles south of Hanksville,is that the last (or nearest) place for gas and food? Its said that the trails are about 1 1/2 miles from campsite,do we have to trailer to the trails from there or can we drive the troopers to the trails?

Yes, Hanksville is the closest town for food and or gas, While we were camped, Lenny & I both drove on the highway, not very much traffic and there are side trails also, So once unloaded, you are good for the duration.

[Kinarfi]

Depends on which campsite you stay at. The one along the highway in between mile marker 20 and 21 has no facilities, it's totally dry camping. The site that is 1-1/2 miles up the gravel road from this site is, I beleive, a state run campground and has facilities. The site near the highway is close to the trails and the state campground is 1-1/2 miles away. I haven't seen the state campground myself but the highway site is easy to get into with big rigs and is a very large site. You could probably spread a couple hundred campers around the site. That is where we will be staying. We generally shy away from established public sites. As far the Trooper goes, the sites are only about 4 or 5 minutes apart, taking it easy. Either site can work out fine. It just depends on what you prefer.

Lenny

Lenny's statement needs correction, Both sites are dry camping and not maintained by state or anyone else, no facilities, the one by the highway has on small plateau hill kind of in the middle. The one down the road about a mile & a half has red rocks that you can camp up against for wind protection and has some outcroppings to separate camps somewhat. I now understand why Lenny's been so against the second site. He thought it was developed, it's not and I don't believe either will have very many people except for us. The first site is a bit flatter than the second, but not by much. I recommend stopping at the first site, unload the Trooper and go look at the second and see what you think, I like the second site, but I am the only one of us who has seen both.

Both sites --- If you don't already know this, each photo can be enlarged by clicking on the "full size" button and then more by just clicking on the picture with the + button

Just off the highway

Down the road a mile & 1/2

This is one of my to be explored routes, should be cooler as it gets higher and into the trees, I believe from the maps.

Kinarfi

[Guest Lenny]

2011 JAMBOREE

June 24th - June 26th, 2011

The Camp Site is approximately 20 miles south of Hanksville on Hwy. 95.

I will post the GPS coordinates when I return from the trade show later this week.

The SITE is located between the 20 & 21 mile markers and it's located on the WEST side of Hwy. 95.

If coming from Hanksville and heading south on Hwy. 95, it will be on the RIGHT side of the road.

You will see a brown sign stating Bull Mtn Rd Scenic Backway.

After you se the BULL MTN SCENIC BACKWAY sign - you will be turning West onto a dirt road off of Hwy. 95.

Immediately on the RIGHT side of this dirt road is a large flat area that is big enough to accommodate everyone... you can see the site from Hwy. 95.

Local history articles show there was a brief gold boom in this general area in the early 1890's.

LODGING:

You will find lodging in Hanksville:

Whispering Sands Motel, 90 S. Hwy. 95, Hanksville, UT (Phone 435-542-3238)

There are a couple others in town (Henry Mtn Hideout & Hanksville Inn) but Whispering Sands looks the best and newest. Don't expect anything fancy!

EATING OUT:

You will find food in Hanksville too. Again, nothing fancy! Stan's Burger & Blondie's Eatery. Stan's is next door to Whispering Sands Motel and Blondie's is across the street. These are all located right as you turn off of Hwy. 24 onto Hwy. 95. There is a 3rd restaurant located on the north side of Hwy. 24 - Red Rock Restaurant, 226 E 100 N

GAS:

You will have gas in Hanksville (near lodging and food, just south of Hwy. 24 & 95 intersection).

If you are traveling from the south on Hwy. 95, you will have gas in Blanding (north of the Hwy. 191/95 intersection). The gas and restaurant are CLOSED at Fry Canyon on Hwy. 95.

The Hite Marina (approx. 20 miles south of the dry camp site) should be open and have gas this time of year. Plus a marina store.

PRIVATE CAMPGROUND (with internet):

In Hanksville, on Hwy. 24, just east of the Hwy. 24/95 intersection there is the RED ROCK Campground (435-542-3235) for those who do not want to dry camp. The campground also has a restaurant.

GROCERIES:

There is a grocery store in Hanksville /Bull Mtn Market on the south side of Hwy. 24 (east of Hwy 24/95 intersection). Also, you will find limited groceries at two gas stations.

BLM OFFICE:

There is a BLM office in Hanksville. When heading east on Hwy. 24 from the Hwy. 24/95 intersection, you will see a sign directing you to turn south. The BLM office is several blocks down on the right. Maps, brochures, points of interest, ect.

POST OFFICE:

You also have a post office in Hanksville on Hwy. 24. It is not too far from the Red Rock Restaurant and Campground.

Hanksville is a small town, you should be able to locate everything easily. All within 20 miles of the trails and the Jamboree Camp Site.

[Mopartist]

Oh; one more thing. Will the "Out of Staters" need to get Utah OHV stickers for our Troopers? (And pass highway inspection?)

[Kinarfi]

Oh; one more thing. Will the "Out of Staters" need to get Utah OHV stickers for our Troopers? (And pass highway inspection?)

I don't think so, I doubt we'll even see any officials, but I'll check, are you stickered or licensed there, if yes, I'm sure it's valid here.

[Mopartist]

I don't think so, I doubt we'll even see any officials, but I'll check, are you stickered or licensed there, if yes, I'm sure it's valid here.

I was checking out the Moab UTV Jamboree website a few months ago and although you CAN register them for the street (with Police escort) Out of staters where they DO NOT register for street use must have an OHV sticker from their own state if under the interstate agreement. I forgot what it's called, but not all states have this interstate privilage. Oregon does. The same with Arizona, California, Idaho, but NOT Nevada.

You can find it here ....somewhere http://www.rallyontherocks.com/

By the way; is anyone here going to this? It's in 2 days. A few months ago; this was the event I was shooting for (Not many Joyners come to this one; but last year there was a couple that I heard dominated some of the rock climbing tours. (The Razor guys were surprised!) Some times a long wheelbase and some extra front end weight really pay off!

[Guest Lenny]

From what I remember, if your unit is legal in your resident state with a sticker or tag or whatever your state requires, then you are okay to ride in Utah.

BUT, Kinarfi said he will be double checking this info for you.

However, if you ever get into ARIZONA, they require you to obtain a State Land Recreational Use Permit. It's $20 and renews every 12 months. When I did mine last year, it was not available online yet. At that time, they didn't have any locations where I could obtain it except one main office in Phoenix. You would need to print the form off from the web and mail to Phoenix, AZ. Thus, you need to plan ahead if you are going to ride in AZ. I live in southern Utah and we used to be exempt from this Permit when riding in the AZ Strip Area (but I wouldn't ride without checking to be sure that this is still the case). The office is in Phoenix, so if you are in that area you could go by the office and pay for your permit. Arizona State Land Department, Recreational Permit, 1616 W. Adams St., Phoenix, AZ 85007, phone 602-542-4631.

Lenny

[Guest Lenny]

Oh, the ASLD Recreatonal Permit for AZ is a family permit for $20 (two adults and kids under 18 years).

But you can get an individual permit for $15 for 1 year instead.

[Kinarfi]

Oh; one more thing. Will the "Out of Staters" need to get Utah OHV stickers for our Troopers? (And pass highway inspection?)

http://stateparks.utah.gov/ohv/out-of-state-registration

Here's all the rules & regulations, Oregon is reciprocal with Utah, If you don't have an Oregon sticker, you'll need an out of state Utah sticker, it can be purchased on line.

Hope this gives you all the info you need.

Kinarfi

[Kinarfi]

Here's something else to do to get ready for the Jamboree, If you have those FRS radios, put them in the Trooper tonight so it's done and you don't forget,

[rocmoc]

http://static.stateparks.utah.gov/docs/Street_Legal_ATV_Requirements.pdf

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

[Guest Lenny]

Need advise on best route to where we will be camping.We are coming from So Cal so say from Las Vegas to Camping area.We will be driving our 32' Motorhome towing a 16' trailer so avoiding any narrow winding roads would be preferred.

Thanks,

Time wise the quickest is I-15 to I-70. We have found taking the back roads almost doubles the time (especially during summer when more travelers). However, the back roads more scenic / interesting.

[ricksrb]

I was just looking at google maps and they say the same as Lenny, who I would listen to as he's smart, He knows.

Kinarfi

I did a mapquest on the route before and it had me exiiting at the 20 to the 89 to the 62 to the 24.It seemed to be a long twisting route.I see by way of the 15 to the 70 it is about 60 miles further but the same driving time,must be a straighter route and does seem to be the way to go.Thanks guys.

[Guest Lenny]

I did a mapquest on the route before and it had me exiiting at the 20 to the 89 to the 62 to the 24.It seemed to be a long twisting route.I see by way of the 15 to the 70 it is about 60 miles further but the same driving time,must be a straighter route and does seem to be the way to go.Thanks guys.

Jeanne and I have taken that route and it is slow going. Don't worry about gas on I-70. Enough of us will be going down 70 so if we see a vehicle with a Trooper in tow, we'll wave as we go buy and notify your next of kin of your where abouts. There are some long upgrades but I just drop down into 5th and take my time. I can pull it in 6th ok but I don't like to let my exhaust get over 1200 degrees. In 6th, my exhaust will get to 1450 degrees and that is about where steel starts glowing a dark cherry red such as the valves. Not the best thing to do to your valves. All heavy pulling or hard working engines should have an exhaust temp gauge. They are simple to install and cheap. You'll be supprised how easy it is to overheat the engine componets and your engine coolant temp gauge won't show it.

Lenny

[Guest Lenny]

I did a mapquest on the route before and it had me exiiting at the 20 to the 89 to the 62 to the 24.It seemed to be a long twisting route.I see by way of the 15 to the 70 it is about 60 miles further but the same driving time,must be a straighter route and does seem to be the way to go.Thanks guys.

Yep,the 20/89/62/24 is a slow moving route, much more time even though less mileage. Mapquest may say both are about equal time but from our past experiences we have always been amazed that you can easily add 3 hours onto your trip taking this back routes off the interstate even without any scenic stops (scenic stops could add another 4 hours). We usually end up getting tired / run out of day light and end up camping in the dixie or fish natl. forest over night before getting home.

[Guest Lenny]

BUT beware, I70 does have a couple of good grades, UP & DOWN!

AND not a lot of gas stops.

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

Off I-70 you can gas up at Richfield or Green River.... plus fuel in Hanksville.

[Kinarfi]

Lenny & Kinarfi,

I have been rereading the past post. I believe it would be helpful to repeat the EXACT location of the campsite for the Jamboree.

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

Thank Rocmoc,

GPS coordinates according to google earth for the turn off are 38 05 46.88 N 110 37 18.13 W I'll add photos and maps info as I get it.

[Kinarfi]

An awful lot of personal verbiage here, so for the sake of directions and direct information, I'm breaking out the eraser and going nuts with it, Sorry for deleting your conversations!!!

[Guest Lenny]

The Camp Site is approximately 20 miles south of Hanksville on Hwy. 95.

The SITE is located between the 20 & 21 mile markers and it's located on the WEST side of Hwy. 95.

If coming from Hanksville and heading south on Hwy. 95, it will be on the RIGHT side of the road.

You will see a brown sign stating Bull Mtn Rd Scenic Backway.

After you see the BULL MTN SCENIC BACKWAY sign - you will be turning West onto a dirt road off of Hwy. 95.

Immediately on the RIGHT side of this dirt road is a large flat area that is big enough to accommodate everyone... you can see the site from Hwy. 95.

Lenny

[rocmoc]

Dump sites in Hanksville, Ut.

http://www.sanidumps.com/rvdumpscity.php?citynum=973&city=Hanksville&cityradius=1

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

[ricksrb]

Well worst fear has happened.Because of issues that have come up at work It does not look good for us to be making it to the jamboree.It started this past Tuesday and despite efforts to make other arraingements all thus far have failed.We were really looking forward to it and had been working on getting things ready.Its a real bummer.

[rocmoc]

WELL!

To generate some excitement for the Jamboree;

We have been working hard to complete the work on the house, at least get it waterproof & secure, and get the Trooper, Trailer & Motorhome ready to travel. WE DID IT! We are going to be able to make it to the Jamboree. I am going for the greatest distance traveled cash prize.

We are leaving early Tues and will arrive mid-morning at the campsite in Hanksville Wed. Everything is done except loading food, water, clothes & the Toys. BUT we will only be at Hanksville from Wed thu Sat leaving Sunday morning. We are moving to Moab Sunday morning for a couple of days on the slickrock. Then on to visit friends near Bear Lake in Idaho. Fun will be had by ALL.

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

[Guest Lenny]

WELL!

To generate some excitement for the Jamboree;

We have been working hard to complete the work on the house, at least get it waterproof & secure, and get the Trooper, Trailer & Motorhome ready to travel. WE DID IT! We are going to be able to make it to the Jamboree. I am going for the greatest distance traveled cash prize.We are leaving early Tues and will arrive mid-morning at the campsite in Hanksville Wed. Everything is done except loading food, water, clothes & the Toys. BUT we will only be at Hanksville from Wed thu Sat leaving Sunday morning. We are moving to Moab Sunday morning for a couple of days on the slickrock. Then on to visit friends near Bear Lake in Idaho. Fun will be had by ALL.

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

Darn, and I thought you wanted to see all of us.

Lenny

[rocmoc]

Order is

Cash first, meet the new people & greet old friends! Priorities, LOL! The cash will pay for enough fuel to get to out of the driveway. But every little bit helps.

657 miles per Yahoo Maps. There was a shorter route by 50 miles but it would be down the Mokee Dugway. I will go up it but not down with this rig. Do a search on google for Mokee Dugway, you will be surprised.

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

[ricksrb]

Order is

Cash first, meet the new people & greet old friends! Priorities, LOL! The cash will pay for enough fuel to get to out of the driveway. But every little bit helps.

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

wish we could be there...