HELP! Cylinder head Kawasaki MULE 550

[Travis]

Hi!, Rebuilding the head, and im putting the Circlips that go on the Valve guides, but the  INTLET valve  guide does NOT have a groove for the clip like the  intake All diagrams i looked at show 2 clips, one on each guide.

THANKS!

Edited July 29, 2017 by Travis
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[Travis]

Well  apparently the Inlet valve guide fell some, Pic  attached below. Or is it supposed to be that way? ANY FEEDBACK WELCOME!

The inlet valve is lower than the exhaust, exhaust valve is closest.

 

                                    

 

[Travis]

@kenfain @TexasT Any ideas?

[Travis]

Do you think it fell, or was made that way, im sure it fell, if it did id have to go through the tideous task of removing it......

[kenfain]

They can't both be at the same place. Try rotating the crank. One is open while the other is closed. It's supposed to work that way.

[Travis]

Well, the head is out of the engine, "Not installed" You are reffering to the guides not the valves themselves right?

[Travis]

So do the guides actually move while engine is running? @kenfain

[Travis]

20 minutes ago, Travis said:

I just watched a UTUBE vid, this guy had a Briggs and Straton, one guide actually got pushed up higher tha the other one, and it was the intake, just like mine.....

 

[Travis]

What do you think i should do?

[Travis]

The Guy in the video said he put red loctite on it, but it only lasted a few months, so he put a brand new head on it, and it solved the problem, but i hate to buy a new head after, re seating the valves ,and getting the spring  compressor etc..

[kenfain]

Sorry Travis, I just glanced at the picture. I thought you were talking about the clip on top of the spring. The one That's on the valve stem.

[Travis]

No, the valve GUIDE

[Travis]

😁

 What should my plan of action be?

[kenfain]

The guides don't move, I'm sure you know that. I'd take out the one that's not correct, and see why. From the picture it's hard to tell.

[kenfain]

The valve guides should be the same. Compare it to the old ones. Are they the same? Are these the same? 

[kenfain]

Isn't it the clip that you're talking about, the one that keeps it from dropping? I don't understand why one wouldn't have a groove.

[Travis]

These are the ORIGINAL guides. Well it actually i found does have groove, and its at the very bottom of the valve that fell.

But im not sure if the guide got pushed up, or pushed down??

[kenfain]

The clip that you're talking about, it keeps the guide from dropping. So pull the guide back up until the clip can be put on. 

[Travis]

Im trying to figure out if the guides are supposed to be even, or un even OR WHAT??

[Travis]

1 minute ago, kenfain said:

So pull the guide back up until the clip can be put on. 

I can not move the guide at all!

[Travis]

If i run it with them un even will it cause any damage?

[kenfain]

It'll definitely cause problems by running it like that.

Are they upside down maybe? In the picture, the tall one sticks up a bit. 

I can't see why they'd be uneven. There's a lot of reasons why they'd be even though. So let's assume they should be even. 

But shouldn't the main part of the guide be in the head. It would make more sense that way. Typically the guide sticks up just a bit. Like a nub. And the o-rings are down inside.

[Travis]

out of allllllllll the dang diagrams i've looked at the guides are the same size, just they fell/got pushed up..... Im bout ready to get my hands on a Japanese.....

[kenfain]

Test fit a valve, see what lines up

[Travis]

Well whenever i put the valves in the end sticking out lines up even?

[Travis]

I'll try to get you some pics..... to better explain.

[Travis]

Here it is with the valves installed.

[Travis]

Im also thinking maybe when i put the springs back on it might push the guide  back down IDK?

[kenfain]

There's a clip on the valve guide, that keeps it from dropping down too far. Right?

[Travis]

YES