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Travis
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So how can i fix my UTV? " we'll circle back"

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My maternal grandfather (a Scotsman ME) always told us that "...the last time any machine started and ran properly may well have been the last time it will start and run properly." Also, "God cr

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Better make a bunch. They may need to double or triple the masks. 

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LMAO    can you imagine the Media coverage if it had been Trump tripping three times?  Instead , most news IGNORES IT, and we get ABC reporter saying  how.. "endearing it was to see him get right back up and salute".... really?  looked pretty EMBARRASSING to me 

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Welp, almost 2 weeks with no problems, went to go grab some firewood and it clicked 3 times. However i did notice the circuit relay was a bit loose and i pushed it up into the plug a bit further. so maybe that was it. maybe. i doubt it though. Murphy's law is the law of my life.

It did fine for 2 starts afterwards. So i guess we'll see over the next few days if it persists.

The thing i hate most is it's so freaking random.

 

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I took a look at the new connector i put on the trigger wire at the solenoid, the dadgum wire pulled right out of it..... I got a new connector  crimped on their now and melted some solder down from the top.

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21 minutes ago, Travis said:

Welp, almost 2 weeks with no problems, went to go grab some firewood and it clicked 3 times. However i did notice the circuit relay was a bit loose and i pushed it up into the plug a bit further. so maybe that was it. maybe. i doubt it though. Murphy's law is the law of my life.

It did fine for 2 starts afterwards. So i guess we'll see over the next few days if it persists.

The thing i hate most is it's so freaking random.

 

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I took a look at the new connector i put on the trigger wire at the solenoid, the dadgum wire pulled right out of it..... I got a new connector  crimped on their now and melted some solder down from the top.

Random almost always = loose/corroded or otherwise poor connection, mechanical things (switches, relays, solenoids. etc.) usually either work or they don't.

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6 minutes ago, cliffyk said:

Random almost always = loose/corroded or otherwise poor connection, mechanical things (switches, relays, solenoids. etc.) usually either work or they don't.

if it persists, ill replace the female connectors at the Ignition switch (harness side)  and Relay. (Or when i get free time)

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Acted up some again today....

 so while i held the key in start, i kind of fumbled around with the ignition switch wires, on the Wiring harness side plug (female connectors which im about to replace) and i got one of the wires in a certain position once and it cranked over, but i couldn't get it to do it again. but where the plug in is, you have to have small hands to get to it.... maybe i need to fly someone from Kawasaki over here to reach back in there.

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20210413_190338.thumb.jpg.82b496eee2b0a6db53ab53913bdafc61.jpgYou can see obvious corrosion in the top right terminal

 That is where the white wire, which is fused and carries power from the battery to the keyswitch.

I did a resistance test on that 1 terminal, some instances it would show 0 resistance, and if i moved it some it it would vary from 3 to 9ohms , and a few times no continuity at all.

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Here's what it looks like now, I put dielectric grease where the wire goes into the crimp terminal. I ran out and I want to put some on the blade connectors themselves. Then heatshrink each individual wire.

I also may try to find a big piece of heatshrink to seal this whole unit.

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These are the crimper/strippers i use

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gardner-Bender-5-in-1-Automatic-Wire-Stripper-and-Crimper-GS-394/301925039?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D27E-G-D27E-27_11_TOOLS_And_ACCESSORIES-NA-NA-Feed-SMART-NA-NA-New_Engen&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D27E-G-D27E-27_11_TOOLS_And_ACCESSORIES-NA-NA-Feed-SMART-NA-NA-New_Engen-71700000072501775-58700006340111859-92700057208561306&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgtWDBhDZARIsADEKwgMXGYn1uUWeskfeoRcjEjDUoXrlL5CD2VjmFJPU7cJYuy_09dtUFDcaAiVvEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

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34 minutes ago, Travis said:

Heh, never knew crimping the end of those would help hold. 

Learn something new everyday.

It was new to me less than a year ago--didn't know that plastic could be crimped...

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These are the crimper/strippers i use

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gardner-Bender-5-in-1-Automatic-Wire-Stripper-and-Crimper-GS-394/301925039?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&mtc=Shopping-B-F_D27E-G-D27E-27_11_TOOLS_And_ACCESSORIES-NA-NA-Feed-SMART-NA-NA-New_Engen&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D27E-G-D27E-27_11_TOOLS_And_ACCESSORIES-NA-NA-Feed-SMART-NA-NA-New_Engen-71700000072501775-58700006340111859-92700057208561306&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgtWDBhDZARIsADEKwgMXGYn1uUWeskfeoRcjEjDUoXrlL5CD2VjmFJPU7cJYuy_09dtUFDcaAiVvEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

That is what a friend calls a "squasher", better is the staking type, best is full compression:

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Here is another sort, for non-insulated terminals:

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I use it when the insulation would be in the way...

 

 

 

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Went to o'reilly's and got some dielectric grease, i went ahead and cut off the plastic connector from the new  Chinese ignition switch, since the same corroding can and will happen in it anyway, so i got some quick disconnects and plugged each wire in individually,  also greased the wire where it crimps and where the 2 connectors connect. and then put some waterproof heatshrink over each connection and wrapped it in electrical tape tightly to "dress" it up a little bit.

 

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8 minutes ago, Joe Breaux said:

got it right here buddy ... but streets are flooded here , got 6 inches of rain in one afternoon,  cant get out unless I crank up the AIRBOAT ..

Airboat ain't made by massimo, is it? LOL ;) 

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Well darn.

after doing the ignition plug in's all nice and pretty and the plugs for the  circuit relay, i went this evening, turn the key, Click. turn the key, Click,, turn the key, Click. Turn the key, VROOM, starts right up.

 It then occured to me one connection i had neglected to change was the one that goes back to the neutral safety switch on the trans. looking at the wiring diagram, my interpretation is it acts like a ground for the starting circuit. so i cleaned it up, and put a new ring terminal on it.

we'll see.....

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