Need info for first oil change - Coleman Outfitter 400

[DStewart]

Can anyone tell me the correct oil filter & where to buy it other than paying $25 for it on Coleman website ?  Can i order it on Amazon? Bought UTV at Tractor Supply but they don't carry oil filters for it (how stupid is that??)

Help would be MUCH appreciated!

[cliffyk]

I bought this one from Amazon $10 with free shipping for Prime¹ members (I have seen some for $8 but w/o free shipping)---it is identical to the OEM filter I took off. Tractor supply actually does have one, but they don't know it 'cause it's labeled as being for a Cub Cadet lawn tractor or something. I think it's $11 or $12 though.

No sensible, cost-conscious manufacturer (which the Asians certainly are) would develop and commission a proprietary oil filter when they can just grab one off a shelf somewhere--only Apple would do something like that--Oh, wait a minute I said "cost-conscious"...Apple doesn't give a crap about cost because their customers will pay whatever they ask.

As far as I can tell most Asian made  ATVs and UTVs use this same filter.

FWIW, my Ariens 20 HP tractor with a B&S Instek motor uses a variant of the same filter (same base, but 3/8" or so shorter). 

Here are the dimensions of the OEM filter:

Harbor Freight sells vacuum pumps, but not vacuum pump oil...

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¹ - Neat thing about Prime is that if you get the item and it sucks, or you just don't like it, you can just send it back--w/ free shipping; and usually a full refund within 3-4 hours of UPS logging in the package.

[Travis]

  On 3/22/2021 at 8:15 PM, cliffyk said:

I bought this one from Amazon $10 with free shipping for Prime¹ members (I have seen some for $8 but w/o free shipping)---it is identical to the OEM filter I took off. Tractor supply actually does have one, but they don't know it 'cause it's labeled as being for a Cub Cadet lawn tractor or something. I think it's $11 or $12 though.

No sensible, cost-conscious manufacturer (which the Asians certainly are) would develop and commission a proprietary oil filter when they can just grab one off a shelf somewhere--only Apple would do something like that--Oh, wait a minute I said "cost-conscious"...Apple doesn't give a crap about cost because their customers will pay whatever they ask.

As far as I can tell most Asian made  ATVs and UTVs use this same filter.

FWIW, my Ariens 20 HP tractor with a B&S Instek motor uses a variant of the same filter (same base, but 3/8" or so shorter). 

Here are the dimensions of the OEM filter:

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¹ - Neat thing about Prime is that if you get the item and it sucks, or you just don't like it, you can just send it back--w/ free shipping; and usually a full refund within 3-4 hours of UPS logging in the package.

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I'd take those Specs and try to find a Wix  filter with those specifications, With a wix number you can then cross ref to a whole bunch of filters.

[cliffyk]

Watch for the thread configuration--some have threads that are 'outies" instead of "innies" like the OEM filter. On  those with the projecting thread the thread can bottom out on the filter flange central tube collar or lock nut before the seal is seated tightly. Many Fram filters are made that way leading to the classic "I bought an oil filter at Auto-Pats 'R Us from their cross reference list and it leaks" threads. I have had this happen on bikes.

One particularly offensive, in this regard,  Fram filter (the projecting thread is almost flush with the gasket):

If you tried to mount that filter on a flange like this ↓↓↓ there would be a problem--the thread will bottom out on the lock nut before it's sealed--been therre and done it.

[Travis]

  On 3/22/2021 at 9:35 PM, cliffyk said:

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Eeeek! a Fram!

[cliffyk]

I agree, I tore some filters apart in a Bob is the oil Guy project back in 2000; the Frams had cardboard end plates, crappy valves and were generally built like crap:

cardboard end plate lousy bypass (this is a "Tough Guard" BTW :

 

overall crap construction:

 

 

in contrast this is a Purolator Pure one:

 

 

Advance Auto house brand (made by Purolator)

 

 

[Travis]

Yep, i usually use Wix or Purolator filters